Interview with Dilys Williams

Dilys Williams
Dilys Williams
Professor & Director
The Centre for Sustainable Fashion
The Centre for Sustainable Fashion

We need a complete shift of the system
The Centre for Sustainable Fashion (CSF) at the London College of Fashion connects research, education and business to support, inspire and create innovative approaches to fashion. Established in 2008 by Dilys Williams, the CSF's starting point was human and ecological resilience as a lens for design in fashion's artistic and business practices. Williams, who is Professor of Fashion Design for Sustainability and Director at the Centre for Sustainable Fashion, University of the Arts in London, delves deep into the issues of sustainability in fashion with Subir Ghosh

The Centre for Sustainable Fashion is in its tenth year now. How much do you think the centre has been able to have an impact on the discourse about sustainable fashion itself? Have you been following any metrics towards this?

Over the last ten years, the Centre for Sustainable Fashion at London College of Fashion, UAL has worked to challenge the status quo in relation to our cultural, economic, social and educational practices in and through fashion. We are proud to say that we have broken new ground in each of these spheres and we've been able to take a leadership role in setting agenda on sustainability in fashion with businesses and government. We are not alone in these efforts, and through our partnerships we recognise progression in the discourse around sustainable fashion that has taken place over recent years. We set up the first research centre in the world dedicated to fashion and sustainability, and our research now has international readership. 

The discipline of fashion design for sustainability is now well established and as researchers, we are now invited to headline conferences where this discipline was not considered ten years ago. We also set up the first MA course in Fashion and Sustainability (MA Fashion and the Environment, renamed MA Fashion Futures in 2015). Ten years of alumni tell us that there are new, exciting roles for these graduates, in industry, in NGOs, in academia, in setting up social enterprises, etc. 

We have also partnered with some of the world's biggest fashion businesses, including Nike and H&M to explore how their design teams and their customers can engage in cultures of sustainability. We have pioneered a unique partnership with Kering-one of the world's leading global luxury groups-to co-create curriculum which will have a demonstratable impact on the way that both business and education innovate. There has been an increasing number of graduates, fashion startups and SMEs who are interested in sustainability-we have worked with and mentored over 100 in the UK and this is now extending internationally. 

Since 2011, we have worked with Baroness Lola Young and provided secretariat for an All-Party Parliamentary Group on Ethics and Sustainability in Fashion (APPG), and now we have started to see impact through the enactment and continued development of the Modern Slavery Act 2015. Global events like the Copenhagen Fashion Summit, to which we are the academic partner, demonstrate how far the industry has come over the past ten years. There is, however, a huge journey still to be undertaken if we are to find ways to live well with each other and with nature.
The Centre for Sustainable Fashion is in its tenth year now. How much do you think the centre has been able to have an impact on the discourse about sustainable fashion itself? Have you been following any metrics towards this?

One of the key factors that the CSF mentions on its website is "create internationally acclaimed research". How much do you think this has happened in the last ten years or so? Do you think the volume of research is not that voluminous enough? Especially given the fact that the fashion/apparel supply chain is so long-winding, and the spread of the industry is so far and wide?

Our starting point for research is contributing to the field of design for sustainability-the uniqueness of the centre is that it brings together a diverse community of voices and perspectives to develop both theoretical and practice based knowledge that contributes to this field. Through our research we explore fashion in relation to key themes such as questioning consumption and growth, usership, social change and amplifying public understanding of climate change. We cannot and do not attempt to cover everything to do with fashion and sustainability- instead we work with other institutions and academics who focus on complimentary areas. Over the past ten years, the centre's research has: produced leading books and publications (Kate Fletcher, Sandy Black) on fashion design and sustainability; developed practice based explorations of sustainability (Dress for Our Time, I Stood Up, Antarctica); and contributed to development of fashion education for sustainability and participatory design practice (Dilys Williams, Kering Partnership, Shared Talent).

Agenda-setting too is one of the key areas of the Centre for Sustainable Fashion. What do you think have been your major successes on this front?

All the more so, given the fact that a policy of one government/country can have a bearing on a number of others. And where do you think a lot of work needs to be done? The APPG's work with Lola Young and the Modern Slavery Act is an example of the importance of working with government, but there is still more work to be done as we need to understand if and how the Act has changed industry practice. We are currently undertaking research to see how the act has impacted fashion buying practices in the UK so that we can report back to parliament and inform continued amendments. Agenda setting covers industry and education too, as changes made in these arenas have global impacts. Our membership of the Sustainable Apparel Coalition (SAC) means that we are able to cross cultural, geographic and scale boundaries in exploring design practices in fashion and changing education is possibly one of the biggest changes in agenda that we can make-changing how the next generation of fashion professionals, see, know and do their work. Agenda-setting too is one of the key areas of the Centre for Sustainable Fashion. What do you think have been your major successes on this front?

Last year, you wrote an article in the Huffington Post titled 'Why Fashion Needs a New Direction'. How important is it to make course corrections in the road to a sustainable future? Could you give us a couple of examples wherein you felt the need to change something about the way the Centre had been functioning?

CSF has grown a lot over the last ten years, with contributions from different team members, partners and a variety of exciting projects. Whilst our overall ambition remains the same, we continue to test, try and evaluate the impact of our work across research, knowledge exchange and education. The strength of the centre's work comes from the combination of the skills and experience from all of its members-this means allowing the space for everyone to have a voice. We continually try to work/live by our values-work collaboratively and transparently, but also consider who we partner with and why. We are all constantly learning and we need to reflect on our actions as we go, always ready to recentre ourselves. The steady element of our work is the intention for fashion to contribute to living within planetary boundaries and human equity-what we do and how we get there needs critical thinking.
Published on: 23/09/2017

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