Interview with Madhu Sudhan Bhageria

Madhu Sudhan Bhageria
Madhu Sudhan Bhageria
Chairman & MD
Filatex India Ltd
Filatex India Ltd

It's a myth that cotton textiles require less energy and pollute less
Incorporated in August 1990, Filatex India Ltd manufactures manmade fibres. The company is a pioneer in manufacturing monofilament yarns and has also diversified into special polyester filament yarns. In 2008, Filatex started manufacturing polyester fully-drawn yarn (FDY) using modern machines from Germany. CMD Madhu Sudhan Bhageria talks about the MMF market.

What is the market size for partially oriented yarns (POY), fully drawn yarns (FDY) and drawn textured yarn (DTY)?

The combined market size in India is roughly 4 million tonnes annually. POY is an intermediary product and it cannot be used for making fabrics. It has to be made either into DTY or used as draw wrapping. But there too it has to be made like FDY. So, in the finished product, POY is used in the form of FDY or DTY. So, the final products are only two-FDY and DTY, that are used for making fabric and other things. What is the market size for partially oriented yarns (POY), fully drawn yarns (FDY) and drawn textured yarn (DTY)?

What is the market size separately for FDY and DTY?

There is no data available separately for FDY and DTY, but it is 25:75 in India. Roughly, the market size would be 1 million tonnes for FDY and 3 million tonnes for DTY.

What are the applications of FDY & DTY?

Both are used mainly for manufacturing polyester fabrics. They can also be used for home furnishing and garments. These yarns are used as a combination or individually depending on the quality of fabric that is being made. Yarn is chosen depending on the kind of finish that is needed in the fabric. Our customers keep experimenting and make new fabrics.

What are the latest innovations taking place in this industry?

Not much. There are very minor innovations taking place like different feel is being given to the yarn. There is one innovation which we do not make-air-texturising-in which a slub effect is created in the yarn by air.  In the next expansion, we are planning to install some air-texturising machines. Otherwise, innovations are only there to give a feel that is much closer to wool or much closer to cotton so that we can be as close to the natural fibres as possible in the kind of properties and the feel that it gives to a person. It is because everybody aspires to be close to the natural fibres.

Who are the leading players in this sector?

Reliance Industries Ltd is the top player, followed by Bhilosa Industries Pvt Ltd and Wellknown Polyesters Ltd. Filatex is at number four. Capacity-wise, Alok Industries is at number four, but it is not running at a full capacity.

What is your outlook on the global textiles market and its future?

The global textiles market depends on prosperity in the world. It is because, beyond certain income, the growth in textiles is much more than the average growth. If the worldwide GDP is growing at three and half per cent annually, then the textiles growth has to be slightly more than that. That is the normal benchmark.  With the population and prosperity increasing, the spending on fabric and garments is always more. India has a large working population and a large domestic base; so, it can take up growth in the textiles industry. For China, on the other hand, with its reducing working population and wages going very high, it will be difficult to take up similar growth.

If we see history, textiles has been a low-wage industry. So, wherever the wages have gone up, the textiles industry has moved away from those countries. The textiles industry started from England, then moved to Japan, Korea, Taiwan and now China. The niche of textiles will always remain in any country, but major production would not be there. All these countries, where wages are high, are technically on the negative textiles growth. So, most production is in developing and lower-wage countries. 
What is your outlook on the global textiles market and its future?

The process of manufacturing and the usage of manmade fibres takes a huge toll on the environment. What steps do you take to reduce your carbon footprints?

I don't think that is correct to say that 'it takes a toll on the environment'. We are a zero-discharge company and whatever we are doing is all being recycled. So, it's a minimal toll, because the kind of energy we use to make yarn is almost five times lower than that used to convert natural fibre into yarn. To make one kg of cotton yarn of the same thickness, the energy requirement and the manpower requirement is roughly 4-5 times than what is required for making polyester filament yarn.

For example, we make 150 dernier which is equivalent to roughly thirties count in cotton. The thirties count would require 4-5 units per kg to be converted into yarn from raw cotton. Whereas from PTMEG to yarn, it requires less than one unit. And similarly, the number of manhours needed will be again 4-5 times and accordingly capex (capital expenditure) would be more. So, it's a myth that cotton textiles require less energy and pollute less. When you consume more energy and more manpower and more capex, of course everything comes at a cost. The cost is also the environment cost and the energy is, of course, the most polluted, because the main source of energy worldwide is still coal.

What is Filatex's USP in comparison to other leading players?

Our USP is to give consistently good quality and service to the customer.

Are your products exported or you are confined to the Indian market?

Our main products are DTY and FDY. DTY exports are good and we are exporting around 40-50 per cent of our production. FDY export is very less since we are not competitive in pricing; in India there is a good demand and we get good price here.

To which markets do you supply your yarns?

We supply all over India. Surat, Bhiwandi, Ichalkaranji, Bhilwara, Panipat, Ludhiana, NCR/Delhi are the major markets. East and South India are comparatively small markets. Overseas we are selling to more than 40 countries now. Major countries are Brazil, South Korea, Bangladesh, Turkey, Poland and Egypt.

Could you give us the break-up in terms of export and domestic market?

Last year, 20 per cent of volume was exported and the remaining 80 per cent went to the domestic market. Our main export is DTY, which is about 80 per cent, and the balance would be chips and some FDY. DTY is little more labour-intensive; so, India is more competitive in DTY than China or any other country globally. In FDY, China is still slightly more competitive than India in terms of pricing.

What is your annual production capacity?

Our capacity as of now is 3,28,000 tonnes, of which 2,70,000 tonnes is yarns and the balance of around 60,000 tonnes is chips.

Any expansion plans?

We are increasing polymerisation capacity by 150 tonnes per day (tpd) through debottlenecking and adding machines for producing 170 tpd of POY and 200 tpd of DTY at an estimated capital cost of ₹275 crore. The project is expected to be completed by the end of December 2019. We are also setting up a captive thermal power generation plant of 25 MW at an estimated capital expenditure of ₹100 core and Solar PV power generation capacity of 2.5 MW at an estimated capital expenditure of ₹12 crore.

What are your plans for 2020?

We are now doing more expansion in POY and DTY. In this calendar year, we would be adding roughly 62,000 tonnes of POY and 72,000 tonnes of DTY per annum. So, almost 20 per cent of POY, i.e. we would be adding 40-60 per cent to our present capacity. So, in 2020, our exports would go up because that is the product which we can export more. And also, the realisation in DTY export is slightly better than selling in India. It is not that we export just for the sake of it; we export only when we get a better price. There is no compulsion of exports on us.

Which machines do you use in your plants?

The machinery in our initial plant is Chinese. They were two primary reasons for that: in POY, there is not much of technology involved compared to FDY, because the speed of the winder which runs is very high in FDY compared to POY. Another reason was that initially we didn't have that amount of money (needed to buy European machinery) and we wanted to grow big; so, we bought Chinese machinery. After the first expansion, whatever we bought in 2016 and 2018, everything has been from Germany. 

As far as texturising (DTY) is concerned, Indian texturising machines are quite good and competitively priced. So, in India, mostly everybody has Indian machines in texturising. There are very few, may be not even 5 per cent, German machines that are 4-times costlier than Indian machines. In FDY, everybody would be having mostly a German or a Japanese machine as you need more quality machines there. For POY, there would be a mix of Chinese, Japanese and German. If it is texturising, then it is mostly Indian. It depends on what machines you want, you cannot generalise.

What is the annual budget allocated to the R&D of all your products? What are you latest research findings?

There is not much R&D happening in these products as they are commodity products. We do have people who do market intelligence of what the customer requires and based on that we develop the product. Expense-wise, we may be investing ₹1-2 crore a year; so, the percentage is nothing compared to the total revenue. Research finding is a continuous process, sometimes they (customer) say that they want a particular kind of a feel or a thing in the yarn. They might want less shrinkage in the yarn or less oil in it. So, we try and produce yarn according to their (customer's) requirements. Our product is not the final product; the final product is the fabric. So, once customers make the fabric, they explain to us what different kind of yarn they need. Then we have to develop accordingly, provide samples and meet their requirements. In short, we develop yarn depending upon customers' requirements.

The Indian yarn industry is falling behind when it comes to research and innovation. What is your take on this? What steps should the government take in this aspect?

In the last 15-20 years, we have been struggling to keep companies out of the red. In such a situation how can one spend money on R&D? Money can be devoted to R&D only when a company makes good profit. Because of the China factor, everybody was struggling to meet their ends all the time. It is only in the last one or two years that some breathing space has come in, and because of that there is not much spending in R&D. However, going forward I think the spending on R&D will increase. 

As far as the steps by the government is concerned, first, it should bring polyester melt spinning into the textiles domain. Currently, we come under the ambit of the ministry of chemicals and fertilisers. Our segment should be brought under the textiles ministry because most of our products are classified based on the final product, which is a part of textiles. Only our raw material comes from petrochemicals. Second, the government should give some protection in customs duty. It is currently 5 per cent on raw materials like PTE and yarn and 20 per cent on fabric. The duty on yarn can be hiked to 10 per cent. Third, there should be rationalisation in the GST structure by removing the inverted duty structure. These three steps would benefit both our industry and the textiles ministry.

What are the challenges that the Indian polyester yarn industry is facing? How can the government help?

The synthetic manmade fibre industry is given a stepmotherly treatment by the government which always promotes cotton. Right from the inception of the synthetic yarn in India, it has been a highly taxed product. Today, the GST on cotton is 5 per cent compared to 18 per cent on MMF raw material. Plus, there is an inverted GST rate in our case; it is 12 per cent on yarn and 18 per cent on raw material. In addition, the MMF industry is not included in the textile upgradation fund scheme (TUFS).

What is the state of the Indian market in terms of polyester yarn and fabric?

The Indian market is now growing because China is slowing down. China has become costlier in the last one or two years. That is why now the Indian market is more involved in synthetics; otherwise, it was growing in cotton only. And that was because there were no promotional incentives given by the government to polyester per se. In the last 15-20 years, the Chinese manmade fibre industry has been growing at the cost of others. They have been selling their products at under-cost price to kill the competition all over the world. But now their working population is decreasing and also their wages have become very high. So, they are finding it difficult to compete in the international market in textiles with countries like India, Bangladesh, and Vietnam. Because the prices have gone high and the availability of the capital is also not that easy. Previously, they were getting capital from banks, even though they were not making payment for interest. All that has changed now. What is the state of the Indian market in terms of polyester yarn and fabric?

The Chinese industry is facing wage hikes and other problems. Can India take up some manufacturing space vacated by China?

Asian countries account for more than 90 per cent of polyester production. China accounts for around 70 per cent, and India around 10-11 per cent. So, these two countries together make up 80 per cent plus of global polyester production. With an 11 per cent share, India is at number two. Compared to India's production of 4 million tonnes annually, there is no other country (except China) that produces even one million tonne. So, if a vacuum is created by China, India has the first potential to fill it up. But it would be very difficult for India to put up the large capacities which are needed to take up that vacuum.

Every year around two and half to three million polyester filament yarn extra is needed in the world which China is providing. China has the capacity where people are producing more than 2 million tonnes; they expand also-like they put 2 million tonne plants or 1 million tonne plants. Here it is very difficult without the help of the government, because whatever few companies we are, we don't have that kind of capital resources to put up those big plants. Reliance can definitely put up, but it is into very big projects. So, I think for them, polyester filament yarn is too small. 

Could you elaborate on sustainability measures at Filatex?

We try to ensure that we pollute the least. We do whatever best we can by recycling the water that we use. In future, we plan to start some recycling of polyester of our waste and may be some bottles. Like the waste which we are producing in the process of making the yarn or the bottle waste which is available, we are planning to recycle that and make the yarn out of it or make it so pure that we can make polymer again, feed it into our own polymerisation, and convert it into yarn. So, that will also help us in reducing the carbon waste. (PA)
Published on: 11/03/2019

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